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I thought this was easy no-one agreed

Poll: I thought this was easy (34 member(s) have cast votes)

Your call?

  1. Double (4 votes [11.76%])

    Percentage of vote: 11.76%

  2. 2D (9 votes [26.47%])

    Percentage of vote: 26.47%

  3. 3NT (20 votes [58.82%])

    Percentage of vote: 58.82%

  4. Other (1 votes [2.94%])

    Percentage of vote: 2.94%

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#1 User is offline   manudude03 

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Posted 2013-April-27, 14:10



Playing sims pairs (MPs), what do you do here?
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Posted 2013-April-27, 16:18

I don't think this is easy, 3nt and 2 both have merrits. I suppose some would double.
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Posted 2013-April-28, 06:23

I like to bid 3C asking for a C stop.
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Posted 2013-April-28, 07:50

View Postmcphee, on 2013-April-28, 06:23, said:

I like to bid 3C asking for a C stop.

Is that actually in your system? :blink:
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Posted 2013-April-28, 07:54

View PostLord Molyb, on 2013-April-28, 07:50, said:

Is that actually in your system? :blink:

I assumed it was humor or bad eyesight.
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Posted 2013-April-28, 08:03

View Postmcphee, on 2013-April-28, 06:23, said:

I like to bid 3C asking for a C stop.

I have trouble distinguishing whether 1 was opened or 1 in the diagram .

I had to "enlarge" the post to determine that it was 1 .
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Posted 2013-April-28, 08:39

Some might surmise from the poll options that the Opening was not 1
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Posted 2013-April-28, 08:53

View PostLord Molyb, on 2013-April-28, 07:50, said:

Is that actually in your system? :blink:


It's Irish Ghestem, I believe.
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Posted 2013-April-28, 09:20

View PostPhilKing, on 2013-April-28, 08:53, said:

It's Irish Ghestem, I believe.

To be played with Irish/Polish jump-cue (1)-3 showing a spade stop and asking if partner has a running suit.
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Posted 2013-April-29, 07:32

Its about time the hand diagrams put colors in symbols to distinguish spades from clubs.
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Posted 2013-April-29, 07:59

Partner has something along the lines of xxx KJx xxx QJTx. 3NT is cold (AK of spades onside), if you bid 2D, you may well play it there (though RHO may balance). Partner chose to bid 4D. He did mention intermediate jump overcalls, and higher jumps are "better". Even still, that choice seemed bizarre, this got doubled and was beaten with first 4 tricks. I was getting a lift home that night and mentioned the hand, and was told that she chose to double and follow up with 3NT once partner bid clubs. My feeling was that 3NT was clear at MPs.
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Posted 2013-April-29, 08:06

First choice - 3NT.

Second choice - double then diamonds. Pard can ask if I have a spade stop for 3NT.

2 is just too little holding 8 tricks in hand.
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Posted 2013-April-29, 08:15

View Postmanudude03, on 2013-April-29, 07:59, said:

Partner has something along the lines of xxx KJx xxx QJTx. 3NT is cold (AK of spades onside), if you bid 2D, you may well play it there (though RHO may balance).

It does make a difference if you have a partner who doesn't raise your overcalls.
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Posted 2013-April-29, 10:07

While there are several possible viable contracts 3n is the stand out especially at
MP scoring. I remain unconvinced that we should just blast to 3n however. P is
a passed hand so most of the dangerous bids that might come from p (4h for ex)
have a much lesser frequency of probability. It takes very little from p to make 3n
or even 5d but will p raise us with that very little if we bid 2d and they are short in
diamonds? certainly not so bidding 2d is way too dangerous here. At least if we

x

we will most likely have a chance to introduce 3d and now even if p has a misfit
sitting with 5/7 power they will probably bid 3s to let us know they aren't broke.
A direct 3n has the merit of being our main game but it is just too unilateral when
by starting with x we can discover if 3n is a decent contract or not and along the
way maybe even end up in 5d vs a doomed 3n. Go with flexibility when able.
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Posted 2013-May-01, 05:27

View PostArtK78, on 2013-April-29, 08:06, said:

First choice - 3NT.

Only if you are sure this is not a UNT overcall. Certainly in old-fashioned versions of UNT you could leap in as high as you like and it is still UNT. For those who are less sure, double followed by 3NT is less likely to be misinterpreted. That's what I'd do.
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Posted 2013-May-01, 05:39

View Postiviehoff, on 2013-May-01, 05:27, said:

Only if you are sure this is not a UNT overcall. Certainly in old-fashioned versions of UNT you could leap in as high as you like and it is still UNT. For those who are less sure, double followed by 3NT is less likely to be misinterpreted. That's what I'd do.

2NT is an unusual notrump overcall.

3NT is to play.
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Posted 2013-May-01, 05:56

View Postiviehoff, on 2013-May-01, 05:27, said:

Only if you are sure this is not a UNT overcall. Certainly in old-fashioned versions of UNT you could leap in as high as you like and it is still UNT. For those who are less sure, double followed by 3NT is less likely to be misinterpreted. That's what I'd do.


Never heard of that. Source?
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Posted 2013-May-01, 06:25

View Postaguahombre, on 2013-April-28, 07:54, said:

I assumed it was humor or bad eyesight.

Or a low PPI.
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Posted 2013-May-01, 06:42

View PostPhilKing, on 2013-May-01, 05:56, said:

Never heard of that. Source?

It was probably in something like Reese & Dormer's "Acol System Today", whose first edition was in the early 60s I think.

Bridge lore tends to change rather incrementally and if one is only intermittently exposed to the coal face it is easy to carry on in a time warp.
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Posted 2013-May-01, 07:25

View Postiviehoff, on 2013-May-01, 06:42, said:

Bridge lore tends to change rather incrementally and if one is only intermittently exposed to the coal face it is easy to carry on in a time warp.


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