Matchpoint decision
#1
Posted 2012-August-14, 20:08
AQ109x
KJ10x
xx
Ax
As dealer auction proceeds
1S p 2S 3D
?
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#2
Posted 2012-August-14, 20:11
-P.J. Painter.
#3
Posted 2012-August-14, 20:35
I don't have a game try.
I pass.
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#4
Posted 2012-August-14, 21:16
Phil, on 2012-August-14, 20:35, said:
I don't have a game try.
I pass.
A six loser hand, plus all sorts of body and finesse options?, looks game-ish to me.
-P.J. Painter.
#5
Posted 2012-August-14, 22:01
Pass.
#6
Posted 2012-August-14, 22:10
#7
Posted 2012-August-14, 22:43
#8
Posted 2012-August-15, 02:00
aguahombre, on 2012-August-14, 22:01, said:
Don't you count long cards in side suits as potential winners? Opposite a 3-card raise, this hand will often take a trick more than AQ109x KJ10 xx Axx.
#9
Posted 2012-August-15, 02:20
gnasher, on 2012-August-15, 02:00, said:
Sure, but it looks as if partner might have given a limit raise if she had one, and we don't happen to use direct raises as particularly constructive either.
#10
Posted 2012-August-15, 03:43
With my agreements (2S somewhat constructive, 3H general game try but could be hearts) I'd bid 3H. If partner bids 4 (hearts or spades) I think we'll often have good play. If partner bids 3S, only one of 3S and 3D has to make for this to be right.
- hrothgar
#11
Posted 2012-August-15, 06:11
But partner's 2S is not a 'good' 9 - having other bids to show
a constructive raise.
Clear pass on this semi-bal 14. Partner is still there.
#12
Posted 2012-August-15, 07:49
(if there is room) a new suit is natural and GT. With that understanding, I would bid 3H in case partner has a decent 3-4-X-X hand and can raise to 4H.
#13
Posted 2012-August-15, 11:04
- billw55
#14
Posted 2012-August-15, 11:30
Pass if 2♠ could be weaker.
#15
Posted 2012-August-15, 11:58
#16
Posted 2012-August-15, 12:22
- billw55
#17
Posted 2012-August-15, 12:28
lalldonn, on 2012-August-15, 12:22, said:
I have no idea what you think the "normal" range for the 2S bid is. But I am 100% that the people who have answered this post will not agree. In fact, dake says 2S is "less than a good nine", but fromage says its 7-10 "decidedly constructive".
OP obviously wants the repliers to make a judgement call, so that he can hone is judgement. How can we do that when we dont know his ranges. There is a wide difference in style on this auction between different posters. For the first four years of my bridge life I never knew that people played this other than a simple raise of 5-9. Now its more common among my peers to play 8-11, and I regularly see other ranges.
#18
Posted 2012-August-15, 12:34
Everyone knows "EXPERTS" play it as 7 to 9.
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#19
Posted 2012-August-15, 12:36
Phil, on 2012-August-15, 12:34, said:
Everyone knows "EXPERTS" play it as 7 to 9.
Sometimes its hard to tell when you are joking.
#20
Posted 2012-August-15, 12:43
I have ♠AQ109x ♥KJ10x ♦xx ♣Ax
Let's give partner a 7-count in the form of ♠K, ♦A. Now, I can count 10 tricks if the diamond hook is working against the person who entered the three-level, assuming that I do not catch LHO with J-x-x-x in hearts. If pertner has both useful Kings, a six-count, I might also make 10 tricks if the hearts behave, if RHO has the heart Queen, and if I can get the third heart tricks somehow. If partner has the club King and diamond Ace, a six-count, I might be able to play hearts for no losers and trumps for one loser, or something like that, again getting to 10 tricks.
Thus, I need about 6-7 working HCP (cover cards) to make game reasonable. Add in the heart Queen or spade Jack, and my odds get even better.
The point, though, as to range is that we are in game range whatever Responder's maximum is, unless his maximum is 5 HCP, and who plays that?!?!?
The only debatable point, I would imagine, is whether Opener should actually bid 4♠, which seems reasonable if 2♠ promises constructive values. But, in that event 3♥ operates as a reasonable hedge against wasted values in diamonds and allows us to snoop about for a possible 4♥ contract if partner has 3♠/4♥.
-P.J. Painter.