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Pass, save... ... Or double?

#1 User is offline   Hanoi5 

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Posted 2012-August-09, 20:11

MP's, what do you do?

 wyman, on 2012-May-04, 09:48, said:

Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the 3.


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Posted 2012-August-09, 22:19

5. I bid more when I have a freak.
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Posted 2012-August-10, 01:56

I doubt that I had bid 2 , but now I try 5 .
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Posted 2012-August-10, 02:42

I think this hand comes down to a decision as to whether we are willing to bid unilaterally over 4. If we are then we should probably start with 3 or 4 so that 4 over 4 shows our hand and lets partner make the 5 level decision. Anyway, having taken this route I would try 5 and hope that hiding the clubs allows the defenders go wrong somehow.
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Posted 2012-August-10, 02:47

Hi,

you decided, to sell the hand as 1 - suiter, holding a 2 - suiter.

Now you have to guess.

I would pass.

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Posted 2012-August-10, 03:39

View PostP_Marlowe, on 2012-August-10, 02:47, said:

Hi,

you decided, to sell the hand as 1 - suiter, holding a 2 - suiter.

Now you have to guess.


This - I would have shown both my suits first time so partner could judge.

However I would guess 5 rather than pass.
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Posted 2012-August-10, 04:38

5S now, but I would have bid differently and shown both suits.
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Posted 2012-August-10, 07:04

3H on that first round is plain ugly. I don't mind 2S and will now bid 5S.

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Posted 2012-August-10, 07:32

View Postahydra, on 2012-August-10, 07:04, said:

3H on that first round is plain ugly. I don't mind 2S and will now bid 5S.

If you play it as spades and a minor, what else do you bid it on at favourable ?
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Posted 2012-August-10, 08:41

5. I'm 6-5!
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Posted 2012-August-10, 09:26

View PostPhil, on 2012-August-10, 08:41, said:

5. I'm 6-5!

No you are not! You are 5-6, but chose, for reasons that escape me, to bid as if you were 6-5.

Given the hcp weakness and our shape, it would have been very unusual for 3 by us to have ended the auction, and we could therefore have expected to show our 5=6 via a later spade bid. That sequence would have allowed partner to contribute to our dialogue.

Having decided to mastermind, we now have to decide what to do. We created this problem for no apparent reason. Bidding 5 feels like I am the lead lemming heading for the cliff, but I still do it.....while promising myself that next time I will bid intelligently.
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Posted 2012-August-10, 09:32

It has been over 70 years since SJ Simon wrote, "when in doubt, bid one more." I still believe it.

More specifically, 5 only loses when both contracts are down, which seems unlikely on this hand and auction. (Unless perhaps partner holds a stiff club and leads it.)
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Posted 2012-August-10, 11:18

You have a secret weapon in clubs, not bad tactics as it turns out. I'm diving with a shot at making 5 opposite a stiff club or certainly beating their game score.
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Posted 2012-August-11, 19:11

5s

not much defense tons and tons and tons of offense opposite a
p that passed originally and piped in with 4s. we might easily make 5s

just as they might easily make 5h. The 5s bid should at worst be a very
cheap insurance policy against 5h making. Dont even consider x
a pass merely means you prefer to let the opps make the last error
or the 5 level belongs to the opps. These policies are a ton more acceptable
at MP where it is just 1 board. Bidding 5s should virtually guarantee you
will escape with -300 at worst and possibly even score up a double swing.
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Posted 2012-August-13, 05:37

I'm not sure I like 3C, I'd prefer to bid 4C immediately if that shows spades and clubs.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2012-August-16, 01:29

View Posthan, on 2012-August-13, 05:37, said:

I'd prefer to bid 4C immediately if that shows spades and clubs.


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Posted 2012-August-16, 02:00

View Posthan, on 2012-August-13, 05:37, said:

I'm not sure I like 3C, I'd prefer to bid 4C immediately if that shows spades and clubs.

For me it does, but it shows a much better hand than this.
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Posted 2012-August-16, 06:16

And has it come up yet?
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2012-August-16, 06:45

View Posthan, on 2012-August-16, 06:16, said:

And has it come up yet?

Yes, KQJ10x, x, x, AKQxxx or similar. We play 4 forcing as we do over a 2 opener, so 3 as /minor picks up the weaker hands.
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Posted 2012-August-16, 08:49

Nice hand, worth waiting for! With those agreements I'd bid 3H then. Probably better anyway.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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