[SimonFa]

This sequence came up this evening and flummoxed our Director who spent 10 minutes reading up and couldn't come up with a solution so just told us to withdraw the bid and warned against UI.

EBU

(1C) - 1D - (P)- X

What should have been the correct ruling, please?

Thanks in advance,

Simon

[Jeremy69A]

Law 19A says he can't do this and refers you to Law 36. The relevant part(36B2) says the double is cancelled, says the offender must now make a legal call, the auction continues and his partner must pass whenever it is his turn to call.
If the director thumbed through the laws from start to finish he probably would have spent under 10 minutes to get to Law 19. Was he incapable of using the index which has the entry: Doubles, Inadmissible?

[blackshoe]

In my copies of TFLB, nowhere in Law 19 is Law 36 mentioned. 36 is of course the correct Law for dealing with an inadmissible double, and the ruling Jeremy gave is correct. So is his reference to the index. When I refer to the book, the first place I go is usually the index, unless I'm pretty sure I already know which law I need.

[gordontd]

Unfortunately the current Law book no longer has a Contents, which the previous ones did. The index would have made a welcome addition to the new Laws, but is a poor substitute for the Contents.

[blackshoe]

The ACBL version has both.

[bluejak]

Personally I always use the Contents. Of course, that means I had to pinch Mike Flader's personal copy of the Laws.

[SimonFa]

Jeremy69A, on 2012-January-02, 17:20, said:

Law 19A says he can't do this and refers you to Law 36. The relevant part(36B2) says the double is cancelled, says the offender must now make a legal call, the auction continues and his partner must pass whenever it is his turn to call.
If the director thumbed through the laws from start to finish he probably would have spent under 10 minutes to get to Law 19. Was he incapable of using the index which has the entry: Doubles, Inadmissible?

Thanks, Jeremy. Does this mean just the next time or that partner is banned from bidding throughout the auction?

Regards,

Simon

[Jeremy69A]

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Does this mean just the next time or that partner is banned from bidding throughout the auction?

It means for the whole of the rest of the auction.

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Unfortunately the current Law book no longer has a Contents, which the previous ones did.

The WBF want suggestions for the next law book so I guess this should be one of them. I would certainly find it useful.

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In my copies of TFLB, nowhere in Law 19 is Law 36 mentioned.

Nor in mine, at least now! The index referred me which is probably what I meant.

[Vampyr]

bluejak, on 2012-January-02, 19:55, said:

Personally I always use the Contents. Of course, that means I had to pinch Mike Flader's personal copy of the Laws.

I use the version of the Contents that Gordon took the trouble to write up himself. Did the WBFLC forget to include the Table of Contents or did the EBU, like the ACBL, use to create it and forgot this time?

[gnasher]

The HTML version of the Laws on the WBF website has a clickable contents page:
http://www.worldbrid...de/contents.asp

[bluejak]

Vampyr, on 2012-January-03, 08:45, said:

I use the version of the Contents that Gordon took the trouble to write up himself. Did the WBFLC forget to include the Table of Contents or did the EBU, like the ACBL, use to create it and forgot this time?

I understood it was a definite decision by the WBFLC to have no Contents. Fortunately the ACBL ignored this.

[schulken]

Jeremy69A, on 2012-January-02, 17:20, said:

Law 19A says he can't do this and refers you to Law 36. The relevant part(36B2) says the double is cancelled, says the offender must now make a legal call, the auction continues and his partner must pass whenever it is his turn to call.
If the director thumbed through the laws from start to finish he probably would have spent under 10 minutes to get to Law 19. Was he incapable of using the index which has the entry: Doubles, Inadmissible?

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