[johnu]

At least the 1NT opener had a hand where 6 had some kind of reasonable play instead of being hopeless.

Opener could have had a max:

AQx
AQ
xxxx
KQxx

and be off the AK of diamonds.

or

QJx
Qxx
AKxx
KQx

and be off 2 aces. There is a recent thread discussing the merits of Gerber. At least Gerber would keep you out of slam if opener had this hand or quite a few worse ones.

I haven't seen anything better than George Rosenkranz's Confi and Super Confi conventions and am mystified that experienced partnerships don't play it. You can stay out of slam missing an ace and king or 3 kings where you are usually no better than 50%, and also check for trump quality in most situations.

[han]

1NT - 3C
3D - 3S
3NT - 4D

shows .44. .

[JLOGIC]

han, on 2011-December-20, 09:43, said:

JLOGIC, I thought you went through puppet stayman with these and then bid 4m?

Obv youre kidding/trolling, but of course I would never assume special methods in the forums if not specified. Of course "special" is subject to debate, I assume 2/1 if not specified and the Cascades of the world might be offended by that, but it's "forum standard" enough that I think it's reasonable to assume some methods like 4sf, weak 2s, etc. If no context exists for a bidding problem its pretty dumb.

And I totally think there are more possible bids than reasonably important hand types when it comes to NT structure, so redundancy is possible. You can make a meaning for every bid but it's probably not practical when it comes to memory work vs utility depending on your biological makeup.