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#1 User is offline   jvdk 

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Posted 2011-December-21, 12:05

our system: raising a 2-over-1 means MF.

my hand:
KQ732
654
KJ6
K7

the bidding:
1 2
??

3 means MF
2NT shows 13-14 HCP
2 can be a 5-card, but with 7-3-2 ??

what should you bid ?

thx for the answer :)
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Posted 2011-December-21, 12:06

MF?
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Posted 2011-December-21, 12:49

View Postblackshoe, on 2011-December-21, 12:06, said:

MF?

I didn't dare ask :rolleyes: Nor do we know whether 2/1 is g.f. only that it was the response to the 1S opening bid.
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Posted 2011-December-21, 13:08

If 3h doesn't require extras, its the obvious call.

If 3h would require extras, then you need to have a FORCING catch-all that opener can bid on minimums. Normally this call is 2s.

If your agreements imply that 2s is not forcing and also that 3h shows extras, then your system is broken. :(
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Posted 2011-December-21, 13:13

I am pretty sure the OP is Dutch (the 'vd' in his name will stand for 'van de' or something similar).

MF = GF.

His question is what to bid if a 2/1 shows 10+ and a raise to 3 would be game forcing.

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Posted 2011-December-21, 13:16

To Trinidad:
Indeed I am from Belgium

sorry for MF (forcing "manche" in my language)
as Trinidad writes: it must be GF
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Posted 2011-December-21, 15:27

I would rebid 2. Given the nature of the 2/1 bid and the rest of the system, the 2 bid is essentially a "mark-time" bid, saying absolutely nothing other than the inability to make any other call.
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Posted 2011-December-22, 14:14

The choice of mark-time bid is a matter for partnership agreement. Some play that rebidding the opening major shows additional length, so 2NT is the default rebid with nothing extra. Others play that 2NT shows stoppers in the unbid suits, so 2 is the default rebid.

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Posted 2011-December-22, 22:52

Partner has five hearts, and I have three of them. So, I raise.
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Posted 2011-December-23, 12:04

View Postkenrexford, on 2011-December-22, 22:52, said:

Partner has five hearts, and I have three of them. So, I raise.

Read the OP, he said that 3 would establish a game force. Are you really strong enough for that?

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