han, on 2011-November-11, 16:31, said:
Sorry I don't think that's a relevant argument. You don't know your partner has 15 HCP when you have to decide whether to pass or to bid 3NT.
Of course i dunno that pd had 15 hcp, and he didnt. He had 13 hcp that i can use and thats not way more than i expected tbh. Considering the explenation of DBL ( weak NT or ..) so i expect pd to have at least the values to invite a weak NT. I didnt start with 2 NT, i did not overcall a suit and pd could pass if he has anything less than 11 hcp imo, because i will DBL again with 18+ or bid suit with 17+ etc etc.
And i never said we will make this 3NT, i know very well that we maybe going down if we are not lucky. But then again, if our hand is not that good they can make 3
♥ doubled also. But as u said the consequences of 3
♥ doubled is very heavy that i would never take this risk at IMP. It can very well be a double game bonus, they can make when we can make 3 NT also. 4
♦... as you aso said i dont even know if we have a
♦ fit, maybe pd has long
♣ 3226 4225 or whatever, what is he supposed to do with those hands and 11+ hcp ?
Preempts are made for a reason, i am in a tuff seat after pd's DBL and i dont have too many options. Pd knows that one of the hands i can hold is this, a weak NT with or without a
♥ stopper. If people are bidding 4
♦ with this and their pd is sitting on it with 15 hcp when we started DBL over multi, more power to them, i would bid 3 NT and go down.