[catch22]

Partner has shown 4+ spades and <5hcp

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Your bid?

[FrancesHinden]

Can partner have

xxxx
x
QJxx
xxxx
?

If so, I'll bid 3S which I assume sets trumps

[catch22]

FrancesHinden, on 2011-August-27, 02:05, said:

Can partner have

xxxx
x
QJxx
xxxx
?

If so, I'll bid 3S which I assume sets trumps

Partner could have that hand.

Partners options were:
1. Show +ive with 5+ spades and a good suit
2. Show +ive canape in minor - 5+ and a good suit
3. Show other +ive - either balanced or unbalanced with a poor suit

All other hand types would go through 2S initially

3S would set spades

[Cyberyeti]

FrancesHinden, on 2011-August-27, 02:05, said:

Can partner have

xxxx
x
QJxx
xxxx
?

If so, I'll bid 3S which I assume sets trumps

Agree with the bid, stiff diamond and K♥ does the trick too if this isn't denied by the double neg.

[whereagles]

4♠. Let's be practical. I don't have the tools to figure out whether pard has the magic hand.

[DrMunk]

I dont know your system good enough. But 3nt/4s and 6s is all possible final contracts.
The advantage with nt is that we still can play it from my hand, protecting the red suits from the lead.

If 2nt is forcing, and i then can learn something usefull abot partners hand, that seems like a good start..

[jschafer]

I would try 4♠. 6♠ seems unlikely and quite hard to find without getting too high occasionally (would be more attractive played from this side). 3♠ is aiming at a pretty small target and doesn't help partner at all in terms of evaluating his hand. In 4♠ I'm hoping partner will have a doubleton in one of the reds and that the K♥ or A♦ will be onside.

3NT only needs a ♥ hook at worst though, so that looks decent too.

[Free]

Partner doesn't need that much for slam, I'll try 3♠ and see if he can show any sign of life. He can bid frivolous/serious 3NT, he can cuebid, and he can bid 4♠, all showing different strengths. The system gave you valuable information at a low level, don't throw it all away now by bidding 4♠.

[gnasher]

Just to clarify what the options are (I was responder):
- 2♦ was game-forcing, but includes all 23+ balanced. That is, it's approximately the same as a 2♣ opening in standard methods.
And now:
- 2NT would show 23+ balanced, and would deny four spades. Over that, partner could show a fifth spade, or a second suit in an unbalanced hand.
- 3♠ would be forcing to game with 4+ spades. Over that, 3NT would be non-serious and a new suit would be a cue-bid.
- 3NT would be to play, based on a solid suit.
- New suits would be natural.

[Free]

gnasher, on 2011-August-28, 06:33, said:

Just to clarify what the options are (I was responder):
- 2♦ was game-forcing, but includes all 23+ balanced. That is, it's approximately the same as a 2♣ opening in standard methods.
And now:
- 2NT would show 23+ balanced, and would deny four spades. Over that, partner could show a fifth spade, or a second suit in an unbalanced hand.
- 3♠ would be forcing to game with 4+ spades. Over that, 3NT would be non-serious and a new suit would be a cue-bid.
- 3NT would be to play, based on a solid suit.
- New suits would be natural.

I thought so much, but I'll change my answer to "3♠ wtp".

[DrMunk]

gnasher, on 2011-August-28, 06:33, said:

Just to clarify what the options are (I was responder):
- 2♦ was game-forcing, but includes all 23+ balanced. That is, it's approximately the same as a 2♣ opening in standard methods.
And now:
- 2NT would show 23+ balanced, and would deny four spades. Over that, partner could show a fifth spade, or a second suit in an unbalanced hand.
- 3♠ would be forcing to game with 4+ spades. Over that, 3NT would be non-serious and a new suit would be a cue-bid.
- 3NT would be to play, based on a solid suit.
- New suits would be natural.

Provided 2nt is forcing(Which i assume it is, since it appears to be unlimited) that is my bid. I think i would end up in 3nt quite a lot.
If 2nt is not possible, i would just bid 3nt, since any 3sp would get us past 3nt/or wrongside the NT.

Looks like a good hand for some simulations?

[olegru]

3♠. Why not?
If partner reply 4♠ – Pas
If partner reply 4♣ – 4♠
If partner bud 4♦ – 6♠
If partner bid 3N – 4♣
If partner bid 4♥ – guessing between 4♠ and 6♠.

[mycroft]

Can <5 include an Ace? If so, there's other issues. Otherwise, I'm likely to get useful information from a cue after 3♠, so...