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Another good preempt What do you bid ?

#1 User is offline   plaur 

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Posted 2011-July-27, 20:51

MP They are not vul, we are.

K7
A
J8432
AKQJ8

2 - pas - 3 - ?
2 is std weak, 3 is preemptive

No gadgets other than 4NT would be both minors


fixed What are ♥E, ♦B and ♣ EKDB? sorry were danish copy paste
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Posted 2011-July-27, 20:54

 plaur, on 2011-July-27, 20:51, said:

MP They are not vul, we are.

K7
E
B8432
EKDB8

2 - pas - 3 - ?
2 is std weak, 3 is preemptive

No gadgets other than 4NT would be both minors

What are E, B and EKDB?
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Posted 2011-July-28, 01:26

 jillybean, on 2011-July-27, 20:54, said:

What are E, B and EKDB?


Probably 4
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Posted 2011-July-28, 01:40

 plaur, on 2011-July-27, 20:51, said:

MP They are not vul, we are.

K7
A
J8432
AKQJ8

2 - pas - 3 - ?
2 is std weak, 3 is preemptive

No gadgets other than 4NT would be both minors


I would bid 4NT, using the gadget that you mentioned and even with flaws due to weak , i have minors and a strong hand. Pd has 3 or less , we are unlikely to be in misfit. My only concern is we maybe missing 6-2 or a good 5-2 fit, but we cant search for all under all this pressure by opponents. At least pd and i will be in same track, since you said this is the only agreement we have.
"Genius has its own limitations, however stupidity has no such boundaries!"
"It's only when a mosquito lands on your testicles that you realize there is always a way to solve problems without using violence!"

"Well to be perfectly honest, in my humble opinion, of course without offending anyone who thinks differently from my point of view, but also by looking into this matter in a different perspective and without being condemning of one's view's and by trying to make it objectified, and by considering each and every one's valid opinion, I honestly believe that I completely forgot what I was going to say."





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Posted 2011-July-28, 04:05

I agree with MrAce: 4NT
One more point: these 2maj-p-3maj preemptive openings are quite common, your competitive bids should carry their meaning after the "sum" of opps action, i.e. X shows the values to double 3H, 3S shows values to bid 3S after 3H, 3NT shows the values of a 3NT bid after a 3H opening.
Your hand doesnt fulfill any of these competitive bids, so your only choice is 4NT (ur agreed on convention) - of course with the risk of missing a good game in S. But for this reason your opps preempt, to make ur life difficult, right? :)
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