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3nt lost 13 tricks? are thisreal

#1 User is offline   shubi 

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Posted 2011-March-21, 17:50

partneropens2h after 2ntfrom me I bid 3nt.
lho on lead j s, I have qxx of spade, I am sure lho leaded either from aj10 or kj10, its all upto rho he ducks j s or puts k or a and rtns spade, rho does exactly that now lho cashed 6 s and sw to d rho cashed 7 d now I end up losing all 13 tricks.
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Posted 2011-March-21, 18:15

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Posted 2011-March-21, 18:42

so you are complaining that you went off in 3nt after partner preempted in a major and you insisted on game in NT with two of the three side suits unstopped?
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Posted 2011-March-21, 22:27

First of all, I thought bridge discussions weren't allowed in the WC.

Second, there seems to be something missing from the auction. What did partner bid after 2NT?

With the opps having all spades except Q, and RHO having 7 diamonds, I suspect they could have made a game. At favorable vulnerability, your -13 is not much worse than their game.

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Posted 2011-March-22, 19:55

View Postbarmar, on 2011-March-21, 22:27, said:

First of all, I thought bridge discussions weren't allowed in the WC.


You seriously think that this is a bridge discussion?
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Posted 2011-March-22, 21:57

View PostElianna, on 2011-March-22, 19:55, said:

You seriously think that this is a bridge discussion?

:lol: :o :lol:

Been there
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Posted 2011-March-22, 22:14

Seems like a game of dice to me.
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Posted 2011-March-23, 05:37

View Postbarmar, on 2011-March-21, 22:27, said:

At favorable vulnerability, your -13 is not much worse than their game.

It was only nine down (no, contrary to conventional wisdom, OP never managed to go 13 down in 3NT).

-450 is great against their vulnerable game.

One of my first online games, btw, was -400 for 8 down when p passed my 4NT take-out, that scored very well at matchpoints.
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Posted 2011-March-23, 06:36

the auction for those of us who thought the OP was confusing:
2♥-p-2NT
        3NT
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Posted 2011-March-23, 14:56

View Postgwnn, on 2011-March-23, 06:36, said:

the auction for those of us who thought the OP was confusing:
2♥-p-2NT
        3NT


Thank you. I see now why the OP did not use the Hand Editor.
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Posted 2011-March-25, 11:18

Silly things can happen, I recall playing in 5Nx which doesn't happen all that often, and the choice of lead dertermined who made 11 tricks. They got it and subsequent discards wrong :D so I made 12.
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Posted 2011-March-30, 09:21

I made what I think is my record NT trick difference taking this weekend, I managed to get 2 tricks from ♠Jxx opposite ♠98xx and opponents never played their other suit, wich resulted in 1NT + 4 instead of the 1NT -4 double dummy solvers think that should be achieved for a total 8 trick difference.
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Posted 2011-March-30, 09:25

And what's your minus record? :)
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Posted 2011-March-30, 10:51

Plus 270.

That is all.
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Posted 2011-April-01, 09:22

Even Zia Mahmood once lost all 13 in 3N, bid to make, so it can happen to the best.
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Posted 2011-April-01, 10:09

lol of course it would happen to Zia... Playing with Hamman? :P
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