[pirate22]

Firstly you are vuln-opp no
secondly all vuln
thirdly all non vuln
fourthly we non-they red

lets say you dealer holding. 1093-KJ4-AQ1098-A6.

you open 1d---2cl--Partner now bids 2h or 2sp--pass

Decision time,lets include we are playing neg x's or not ply neg x's
and take into account the 4 situ's above .
so im looking for 4 answers

[barmar]

Partner's bid means the same in all vulnerabilities: 5+ in his suit, 10+ HCP or the equivalent. It's a one-round force, you should raise to 3. I'm not bidding game myself; with the strong opponent on my left, my ♦ finesses are likely to be losing. But I'm willing to admit this could be wrong, partner might be looking at 3 small ♣ and worry about all those losers.

Unless you're playing negative free bids, then he should be weaker.

It's been so long since I've played without negative doubles, I don't know if he could bid a 4-card suit then.

[whereagles]

I'll raise pard's 2M to 4 because there's 24+ hcp between me and pard and they all seem to be working.

Incidently, I'd have opened 1NT. It's a fine 14 with long strong suit. Worth 15.

[pirate22]

not much response so far.............
The problem is when pard bids the 2h/2s
is he weak-or is he strong,surely a x instead of
making a bid,must show he is good,
if weak then i agree with the bid 2h/2s.
as it hppens pard was strong,and one missed game.
thus opener can have confidence if p x,that he has enough
values to accept ones rebid

[Stephen Tu]

Without specific agreements for "negative free bids", the 2h/2s bids are forcing one round and strong just as barmar described, 10+ 5+ suit; the floor for a free bid is higher than for a double, since with a negative double you can conceivably buy the contract at the 2 level if partner bids a major and you pass (holding a min negative double), while with a forcing free bid you are reaching at least 2nt.

Negative doubles are generally used to find 4-4 fits in unbid majors as a first priority. You don't double when strong enough to make a forcing free bid having a 5 cd suit.

Negative free bids is a possible agreement, allowing one to bid 2h/2s on weaker hands, non-forcing. This requires stronger hands to double first (or maybe jump), so double then bid a new suit is forcing, the opposite of the std treatment where double then new suit is weaker and non-forcing. I don't think negative free bids are at all popular among better SA & 2/1 players in North America; it's more common over a Polish club opener and other parts of the world/other systems. You get to bid on a few more weak hands, but with stronger game going hands you tend to lose bidding space, doubling first is subject to further preemption from opponents, and partner's rebids can interfere with showing all aspects of your hand at an efficient level. It also makes it harder to invite game. Since the stronger hands are more important in general, I think it's a bad trade-off, essentially you are overloading your double. The negative free bid hands, some of them you can afford to double and bid the suit playing the standard way, and some of them you can recover your partial after partner reopens with a double. If it gets all passed out, you may find you are better off defending anyway.

[Zelandakh]

Pirate, it sounds as though your natural inclination is towards negative free bids. Unfortunately this requires discussion and by default the meanings are exactly the opposite of what you describe - an immediate 2M bid is strong while doubling and bidding the major later is weak. I also agree with whereagles that this is a 1NT opener and is worth a raise to 4M after a (standard) 2M response.