IMPS, NS red. Anyone to blame ? If so who ?
Anyone to blame ?
#1
Posted 2011-January-02, 12:46
IMPS, NS red. Anyone to blame ? If so who ?
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#2
Posted 2011-January-02, 14:00
#3
Posted 2011-January-02, 14:11
#4
Posted 2011-January-02, 14:12
#5
Posted 2011-January-02, 15:44
#6
Posted 2011-January-02, 15:53
#7
Posted 2011-January-02, 16:07
ceeb, on 2011-January-02, 14:00, said:
You mean: "... which makes the slam depend on two out of three finesses (that are supposed to work on the bidding), if East holds the ♠A, ♥JT and ♦KTxx."
Given that I would have bid exactly the same as East with e.g. ♠Axx ♥Jxxx ♦9xx ♣xxx, I don't see any reason to blame West.
I don't see any reason to blame East either. For me XX shows that you want West to declare 3NT.
Rik
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#8
Posted 2011-January-02, 16:16
Trinidad, on 2011-January-02, 16:07, said:
Rik
Thats why i bid 3 NT, i thought if pd has Qxx ♠ it wouldn't matter, but what if he has Qx or Jxx ? To be honest i didn't think of slam at that point, i was trying to figure which contract and from which side would be safest for us. If he has a really huge hand, i thought i did my job by 3♠ first instead of direct 3 NT, as someone mentioned above.
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"Well to be perfectly honest, in my humble opinion, of course without offending anyone who thinks differently from my point of view, but also by looking into this matter in a different perspective and without being condemning of one's view's and by trying to make it objectified, and by considering each and every one's valid opinion, I honestly believe that I completely forgot what I was going to say."
#9
Posted 2011-January-02, 16:17
XX would not show ♠A as I play it (it would ask for a stopper, since west could pass and then bid 3NT when in doubt).
#10
Posted 2011-January-02, 18:09
Of course I don't know what to do as East in response .. now his hand is gigantic given his earlier lack of jump .. seems like he would bid 3D but that doesn't do it justice. He'd be alot less wont to bid 3NT tho opposite known spade shortness.
#11
Posted 2011-January-02, 19:11
Trinidad, on 2011-January-02, 16:07, said:
My first instinct was that while West is more than minimum for double-then-3♣, I wasn't going to put any blame. But on reconsideration of the potential in West's aces I decided West is a lot more than minimum and since East has given the partnership an opening to go further West should take it. Slam may still not be reached.
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#12
Posted 2011-January-03, 03:48
ceeb, on 2011-January-02, 19:11, said:
What would a minimum for double-then-3♣ look like?
#13
Posted 2011-January-03, 04:28
However, I would not stay in 3NT with the West hand when East did not bid notrump directly. The double of 3♠ was stupid and served no purpose for North-South.
In a well oiled partnership, East might rebid 3♦, which should be forcing for one round, instead of 3♠.
The bidding might go
(1♠)
DBL-2♥
3♣--3♦
3♥--3♠
4♦--4♠
6♦
West has given a good description of his hand and over 4♦ East can see that all his values are working and makes a slam try with 4♠.
West of course accepts.
Rainer Herrmann
#14
Posted 2011-January-05, 20:31
better start is 2s. There is no reason to hurry and show 5 card suit (even thought its nice) when your hand is so much better than normal because of the opening bid on your right. keep bidding low and go slow when you are very powerful. I know 2s is only 2 pips below 3c but reverse your minors and the advantage of 2s becomes even clearer.