[TylerE]

♠ -
♥ KQ93
♦ -
♣ AKJxxxxxx

MP... equal vuln (can't remember if none or all), LHO deals and passes
Partner passes, RHO opens.... 1♥!

Your call?

If you double:

Spoiler

LHO will bid 2♥, CHO bids 3♥, and RHO bids 4♥

[gwnn]

double? why double? Am I not quite far from 4144?

5♣ for me. Could be convinced that 6♣ is better.

[ArtK78]

5 or 6 clubs would be my choice. Probably 5 clubs since I have no idea what I am going to do with my hearts.

[TylerE]

My logic for double.... I's about a 8.5-9.5 loser hand depending on how you count it, and partner might just be able to show showthing. (e.g. 1NT or or any jump is good..., a 1♠ is bad...)

[rogerclee]

gwnn, on May 7 2010, 11:40 AM, said:

5♣ for me.

LOL

[ArtK78]

TylerE, on May 7 2010, 02:26 PM, said:

My logic for double.... I's about a 8.5-9.5 loser hand depending on how you count it, and partner might just be able to show showthing. (e.g. 1NT or or any jump is good..., a 1♠ is bad...)

I assume you meant an 8.5-9.5 winner hand, unless your declarer play is particularly poor.

The same could be said about:

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Axx
JT98765432

I am reasonably sure I could play this hand for 9 tricks with no help from partner, but that doesn't make it a strong 2 bid.

An extreme example, to be sure. But if you double partner is within his rights to think that you might have some support for spades and/or diamonds. I would venture to say that your spade holding and diamond holding will be a disappointment.

[pooltuna]

ArtK78, on May 7 2010, 02:03 PM, said:

5 or 6 clubs would be my choice.  Probably 5 clubs since I have no idea what I am going to do with my hearts.

fortunately or unfortunately you will most likely be getting a ♥ lead which should also be resolving the ♥ problems Count me as a 5♣ caller as well. of course partner will put down 3♣ and a stiff ♥ unless I bid 6♣ when he puts down 3 small ♥ and a stiff non Q ♣

[mikeh]

6♣

The value bid is probably 5♣, and in a strong field, that's what I'd bid, since when I bid slam, they know I'm ready for a heart lead (not for this reason, I suspect). But in most mp games, I'd bid slam....hope RHO wins the A and tries to cash another A. I'd then (I hope) play 8 clubs at him (unless it was apparent that there was a better line). Most mp players get dazed and confused, and I'd expect to win my 3♥ at trick 13.....of course I'd play the 9 at trick one unless there was a reason not to: say they led the 10 and dummy held xx and a club entry.

I hope they don't bid 6♦ or 6♠

[kayin801]

I'd bid 2C before X

(but would still bid 5/6C depending on my mood)

(re-edit: or 3NT online)

[bid_em_up]

TylerE, on May 7 2010, 02:32 PM, said:

If you double:

you gotta be &*()^!! kidding me?!?

[quiddity]

mikeh, on May 7 2010, 03:00 PM, said:

The value bid is probably 5♣, and in a strong field, that's what I'd bid, since when I bid slam, they know I'm ready for a heart lead (not for this reason, I suspect).

If I were going to roll the dice with 6C, I would only do it in a very strong field. Even a beginner can find a singleton heart lead on this auction, and most RHOs can see partner's high-low and subtract from 13.

[jdonn]

rogerclee, on May 7 2010, 02:34 PM, said:

gwnn, on May 7 2010, 11:40 AM, said:

5♣ for me.

LOL

Someone doubled and it's 5♣ you chose to LOL?

I will definitely overcall clubs, and the weaker the field the more likely I overcall 6♣ instead of 5. Because I think a weak player is much more likely than a strong one to try to cash a spade/diamond ace at trick 2 than to give his partner a heart ruff. However overall I am much more likely to bid 5 than 6 (so I get LOLed?)

[Fluffy]

my gut reaction was to bid 2♣ before making a final decision, but what info am I getting here?

well a valuable info!, LHO is raising hearts and now we know we belong to 6♣.

[Phil]

2 or 6. Probably 6.

I could opine on the type of players that double with this shape but I'd get flamed.

[nige1]

TylerE, on May 7 2010, 01:32 PM, said:

♠ - ♥ KQ93 ♦ - ♣ AKJxxxxxx
MP... equal vuln (can't remember if none or all), LHO deals and passes Partner passes, RHO opens.... 1♥! Your call?

IMO

• Over (1♥) ??, 5♣ = 10, 2♣ = 8, _X = 2.
  
• After (1♥) _X (2♥) 3♥; (4♥) ??, 6♣ = 10, 7♣ = 9, 5♣ = 5.
  Double worked out quite well

[matmat]

bid_em_up, on May 7 2010, 03:35 PM, said:

TylerE, on May 7 2010, 02:32 PM, said:

If you double:

you gotta be &*()^!! kidding me?!?

heh. guess you two better discuss this one, chas.

[Free]

5♣ for me, don't see how we'll make 6. We have 3 ♥ losers, and partner rates to have 1 ♣.

[bid_em_up]

matmat, on May 7 2010, 09:48 PM, said:

bid_em_up, on May 7 2010, 03:35 PM, said:

TylerE, on May 7 2010, 02:32 PM, said:

If you double:

you gotta be &*()^!! kidding me?!?

heh. guess you two better discuss this one, chas.

We did.

Hopefully, Tyler saw the light when the auction proceeded:

(p)-p-(1♥)-X-
(2♥)-3♥-(4♥)-6♣-
(p)-?

and the random BBO expert bid 6♦ at this point, which of course, was promptly doubled.

Tyler then bid either 6N or 7C (I dont remember), again doubled and off one and of course, 6♣ was making all along.

[gwnn]

Well pulling the double was very very very bad. Doubling deserves only two very's but I have to admit, this time it was very effective as we can now bid 6♣ with some confidence.