[mohitz]

Scoring: IMP

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Second seat you pass. I guess few will open 2♥ but i did not like it with a void and strong side suits and lack of intermediates in hearts.

Anyway, the auction proceeds

(p) - p - (1♦) - 1♠
(p) - ?

What's your take now? Good raise, fit jumps and splinter in diamond are all available.

[the hog]

3H fit showing jump. Would have opened 2H of course, as most would.

[aguahombre]

3H must be fit-showing by a passed hand. If you were not a passed hand, it would just plain be forcing and natural. It seems you are better off after passing, rather than opening 2H, since partner can infer this hand. I don't know if that is just lucky on this hand, or one good reason for choosing not to open 2H.

[ggwhiz]

2♦ intending to bid at least 3♥ next IF I'm not confident of being on the same page for the fit jump.

I agree with the initial pass, especially at imps. This hand is way too slamish for a weak 2, ie. if pard has good long clubs, a stiff heart and the spade ace.

[jjbrr]

fit jump.

[Phil]

I think this hand is wrong for a fit jump.

1. I'd much rather have a 4th trump without a 6th heart.

2. I don't know that 3H helps partner evaluate that well because I don't think Qx of hearts makes a whole lot of difference for our offensive prospects.

3. Why should partner get overexcited about club honors for defense and not offense?

4. How often will the heart suit be the key to slam? Unless partner has a very good 3 or 4 card holding, our hand will probably be taking diamond ruffs instead of heart trick (but the defense may have to choose which one they allow).

I prefer a simple 2D call followed by 3H. I think this shows good hearts, 3 trump and a good hand that has passed.

BTW I would have opened this 1H.

[whereagles]

Wrong type of hand for a fit jump, IMO. I'll just go with the usual, boring, cue bid or a more enterprising straight raise to 4 if I feel lucky.

[Cyberyeti]

The_Hog, on Mar 21 2010, 04:51 AM, said:

3H fit showing jump. Would have opened 2H of course, as most would.

Routine 1♥ not 2

[the hog]

Cyberyeti, on Mar 22 2010, 04:36 AM, said:

The_Hog, on Mar 21 2010, 04:51 AM, said:

3H fit showing jump. Would have opened 2H of course, as most would.

Routine 1♥ not 2

Playing lobs now?

[Codo]

A 2 Heart opening had shown this hand to me.

3 HEart now would show more often 4 spades then 3 and 5 hearts, so this is a misdescirbtion too.
2 ♦folloed by 3♥ now.

[Fluffy]

2♥ now intending to raise spades at the 3 or 4 level next, LHO is gonna bid again I think.

If partner raises hearts we found the right strain I think. If he passes we are at a low level at least.

2♦ then hearts is a sound plan also.

[P_Marlowe]

3H, ... or even 4H.

We would not have opened this hand with 2H,
it is basically too strong, and the suit is too terrible
to open 3H.

With kind regards
Marlowe

[gwnn]

I am undecided as to 1♥ or 2♥ originally to be honest but I suspect I would have just bit the bullet and 1♥'ed at the table. Anyway we're here now and it's not such a bad position, I agree with Phil that I would 2♦ and then 3♥ which should show 6-3 or thereabouts. Well partner might be perplexed as to why I did not bid my 6-3 earlier so maybe he'll be playing me for 5-3 but that's fine. I dislike fit jumping with this hand since partner's ♣ honours are just as helpful as his ♥ honours. Besides, a fit jump says I have 4-5 but I have 3-6 and that's a big diffference. For instance we could even find 4♥ after 2♦ like

...
2♦-2♥
4♥

or

...
2♦-2♠
3♥-4♥

and I would surely prefer to be in our 6-4 or 6-3 in hearts than in our 5-3 in spades where we rate to have to ruff with the KJ of spades.

[Cyberyeti]

The_Hog, on Mar 21 2010, 07:27 PM, said:

Cyberyeti, on Mar 22 2010, 04:36 AM, said:

The_Hog, on Mar 21 2010, 04:51 AM, said:

3H fit showing jump. Would have opened 2H of course, as most would.

Routine 1♥ not 2

Playing lobs now?

lobs ?

The minimum standard in the UK for 1 banana is two longest suits + points = 19 (and 8? points), which this adheres to and has some reasonable intermediates and no wasted honours in doubleton or less, so routine opening one bid for me.

Clearly playing 2/1 would be more awkward.

[nigel_k]

Agree with initial pass. 1♥ is a fairly close second choice. 3♥ a distant third. Never 2♥.

I also would not fit jump because the heart suit and overall hand are wrong. Even with 4-5 a fit jump on Axxxx is going to do more harm than good. Partner may downgrade a singleton or think his Qx will help to set up winners. I would just cue bid and limit raise or show shortness if I have that option.