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W/r imps 1D on your right, your bid? Would this change if the vul is different (if so how)?
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Posted 2008-April-28, 18:02
I think if I bid 4 and they bid I will feel unsure about what to do, whereas if I bid 1 then 4 I will feel like I've shown my hand better, so I will do that.
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Posted 2008-April-28, 20:26
1♥.
2♥ if red on white, because intermediate. It's a big intermediate, but I'm expecting the auction to continue and I'm prepared to solo 3♦ if necessary.
2♥ if red on white, because intermediate. It's a big intermediate, but I'm expecting the auction to continue and I'm prepared to solo 3♦ if necessary.
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Posted 2008-April-29, 06:32
4♥. Very dependant on the vulnerability, you need a plan for if they bid 4♠. At favourable I'm willing to put the maximum pressure on now and take action if they bid 4♠, 5 level rates to be cheap. A good hand for playing a double of 4♠ as I want to sacrifice, but happy if you want to defend.
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Posted 2008-April-29, 06:43
4♥ and I don't care about colors. A lot of plusses for this bid and few minuses.
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Posted 2008-April-29, 07:48
I've always bid 1[H] on these sort of hands.....maybe I should be bidding 4[H] though as it puts plenty of pressure on the opponents.
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Posted 2008-April-29, 08:43
I sorta like 4♥ better if red on white, I would never bid an intermediate 2♥ with this hand, lol
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Posted 2008-April-29, 10:33
4♥ for me.
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Posted 2008-April-29, 10:42
I kind of like the 4♥ / double route. Gives us a lot of options here and applies pressure. I realize that LHO will bid 4♠ when its remotely right to do so, but that doesn't mean they made the right decision.
I certainly would not take offense if my pard bid 1♥.
I certainly would not take offense if my pard bid 1♥.
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Posted 2008-April-29, 11:13
I love the 4H bid.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.
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Posted 2008-April-29, 12:54
I assume the 4H bidders are Xing whatever comes back to them (expecting partner to usually pass)?
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Posted 2008-April-29, 13:03
I can't beleive the number of people preempting with 4♥ on this hand in second seat. It's a simple 1♥ overcall for me; spades will surely be bid by someone (judging by my hand and opening bid) and I'll have the opportunity to jump at the appropriate level in ♥, thus cleary describing my hand in terms of offense and stregth.
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Posted 2008-April-29, 13:04
fachiru, on Apr 29 2008, 02:03 PM, said:
I can't beleive the number of people preempting with 4♥ on this hand in second seat. It's a simple 1♥ overcall for me; spades will surely be bid by someone (judging by my hand and opening bid) and I'll have the opportunity to jump at the appropriate level in ♥, thus cleary describing my hand in terms of offense and stregth.
Yes, and the opps will have time to clearly describe their hands. Bridge is a fascinating game because there are opponents.
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Posted 2008-April-30, 04:05
Why do we need opponents for? I'm pretty sure left alone we can mess up stuff ourselves 
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Posted 2008-April-30, 06:29
whereagles, on Apr 29 2008, 07:43 PM, said:
4♥ and I don't care about colors. A lot of plusses for this bid and few minuses.
Agree with Nuno again!
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Posted 2008-April-30, 06:32
fachiru, on Apr 30 2008, 02:03 AM, said:
I can't beleive the number of people preempting with 4♥ on this hand in second seat. It's a simple 1♥ overcall for me; spades will surely be bid by someone (judging by my hand and opening bid) and I'll have the opportunity to jump at the appropriate level in ♥, thus cleary describing my hand in terms of offense and stregth.
Just read this and here is an interesting question: If the bidding goes
(1D) 1H (P) 1S
(P) 4H
D you not think this might imply at least some spades and not a stiff? Why has your hand suddenly improved because of the S bid so that you can now bid 4?
As has been pointed out, there are 3 opponents; why give the other 2 a chance to bid spades?
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Posted 2008-April-30, 16:51
The_Hog, on Apr 30 2008, 07:32 AM, said:
fachiru, on Apr 30 2008, 02:03 AM, said:
I can't beleive the number of people preempting with 4♥ on this hand in second seat. It's a simple 1♥ overcall for me; spades will surely be bid by someone (judging by my hand and opening bid) and I'll have the opportunity to jump at the appropriate level in ♥, thus cleary describing my hand in terms of offense and stregth.
Just read this and here is an interesting question: If the bidding goes
(1D) 1H (P) 1S
(P) 4H
D you not think this might imply at least some spades and not a stiff? Why has your hand suddenly improved because of the S bid so that you can now bid 4?
As has been pointed out, there are 3 opponents; why give the other 2 a chance to bid spades?
I'm not sure I follow your point. The pattern is 2614, which means that you don't have a stiff spade, like you suggested. So, is this an argument in favor of overcalling 1♥ -- because you have a doubleton spade?
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Posted 2008-April-30, 17:40
I really like bidding 4H with this hand, when you buy it it rates to be good since you have like 9 tricks of playing strength, and it will shut the opps out a lot as opposed to 1H which lets them bid and raise as freely as they want. It will also sometimes bully them into bidding when it's wrong. I definitely think you are committed to smacking them off if you overcall 4H though otherwise it might be a reverse steal (lol). Sure it's a little high variance and they're forced to X you when you might make someitmes and you're forced to X them when they might make, but I just think that 4H is the percentage action to begin with, and then when something comes back to you that Xing is the percentage action.
There has always been a myth in bridge that if you don't know what to do after making a jump like this, you shouldn't make that jump. That's silly. It could easily be right to bid 4H because your potential of buying it is so high and their potential of making a mistake is high. If they DO bid over it you may be in a tough spot and may have to guess, and you may guess wrong sometimes, but that doesn't mean the initial bid was wrong.
There has always been a myth in bridge that if you don't know what to do after making a jump like this, you shouldn't make that jump. That's silly. It could easily be right to bid 4H because your potential of buying it is so high and their potential of making a mistake is high. If they DO bid over it you may be in a tough spot and may have to guess, and you may guess wrong sometimes, but that doesn't mean the initial bid was wrong.
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Posted 2008-April-30, 18:44
kenrexford, on May 1 2008, 05:51 AM, said:
The_Hog, on Apr 30 2008, 07:32 AM, said:
fachiru, on Apr 30 2008, 02:03 AM, said:
I can't beleive the number of people preempting with 4♥ on this hand in second seat. It's a simple 1♥ overcall for me; spades will surely be bid by someone (judging by my hand and opening bid) and I'll have the opportunity to jump at the appropriate level in ♥, thus cleary describing my hand in terms of offense and stregth.
Just read this and here is an interesting question: If the bidding goes
(1D) 1H (P) 1S
(P) 4H
D you not think this might imply at least some spades and not a stiff? Why has your hand suddenly improved because of the S bid so that you can now bid 4?
As has been pointed out, there are 3 opponents; why give the other 2 a chance to bid spades?
I'm not sure I follow your point. The pattern is 2614, which means that you don't have a stiff spade, like you suggested. So, is this an argument in favor of overcalling 1♥ -- because you have a doubleton spade?
I misread the hand Ken as I posted on pg2. I thought he had a stiff S. My eyes are getting bad or my screen resolution is too low.
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