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Freak matchpoint hand Two part question

Poll: Freak matchpoint hand (44 member(s) have cast votes)

Freak matchpoint hand

  1. 1H (10 votes [22.73%])

    Percentage of vote: 22.73%

  2. 2H (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  3. 3H (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  4. 4H (21 votes [47.73%])

    Percentage of vote: 47.73%

  5. 5H (2 votes [4.55%])

    Percentage of vote: 4.55%

  6. 6H (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  7. 2NT (clubs and hearts) (8 votes [18.18%])

    Percentage of vote: 18.18%

  8. 4NT (clubs and hearts) (3 votes [6.82%])

    Percentage of vote: 6.82%

  9. Double (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  10. Something else (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

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#1 User is offline   awm 

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Posted 2008-March-23, 19:06

Third seat. Pass-1 to you, favorable at MP. What's your call?

Scoring: MP

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Posted 2008-March-23, 19:20

1H, expect more bidding.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2008-March-23, 19:33

4
That's impossible. No one can give more than one hundred percent. By definition that is the most anyone can give.
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Posted 2008-March-23, 19:54

4H for me as well.
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Posted 2008-March-23, 20:10

At favorable, am I bidding to make? If so, 4H. I think rather that they are on for 4S or 5D so I will bid 5H and try to look indifferent.
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Posted 2008-March-23, 20:26

1 for me.

I can't see why this isn't our hand.

Spades might be a problem but the opponent's average number of spades must be less than 8.

I could show hearts and clubs with 2NT but I tend not to do that without substantial extra strength when I have six or more hearts.
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Posted 2008-March-23, 20:28

4 for me. I just think this is the practical bid to make.
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Posted 2008-March-23, 21:15

4 and 5 over 4.
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Posted 2008-March-23, 22:26

4H for me also.
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Posted 2008-March-24, 00:18

I went with the plurality (so far) and bid 4. I thought there were good chances 4 would come back to me, over which I could bid 5.

This did not happen. Instead, LHO bid 5 which passed back to me. Now what?
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Posted 2008-March-24, 00:22

with 7-4 i would try 4h.....with 7-5...I will try one heart and hope to bid clubs.....

I hope this well help, but it may very well still be a guess.
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Posted 2008-March-24, 00:39

awm, on Mar 24 2008, 01:18 AM, said:

I went with the plurality (so far) and bid 4. I thought there were good chances 4 would come back to me, over which I could bid 5.

This did not happen. Instead, LHO bid 5 which passed back to me. Now what?

Light em up. This is a huge disaster if we have a big club fit but it doesn't sound like it lol.
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Posted 2008-March-24, 01:19

awm, on Mar 24 2008, 01:18 AM, said:

I went with the plurality (so far) and bid 4. I thought there were good chances 4 would come back to me, over which I could bid 5.

This did not happen. Instead, LHO bid 5 which passed back to me. Now what?

Pass I guess. Nobody wants to be in 5 anyway.
For all I know it could be down on 2 club tricks and a spade.
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Posted 2008-March-24, 02:03

4. Put the pressure on!

After 5, pass. You've already made your decision to bid 4 - be it for good or bad.
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Posted 2008-March-24, 02:21

4
Squeeze me
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Posted 2008-March-24, 02:40

effervesce, on Mar 24 2008, 03:03 AM, said:

4. Put the pressure on!

After 5, pass. You've already made your decision to bid 4 - be it for good or bad.

1h...lets really put the pressure on them to bid game.....if they bid 5d.....double.....the pressure.
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Posted 2008-March-24, 03:50

mike777, on Mar 24 2008, 03:40 AM, said:

effervesce, on Mar 24 2008, 03:03 AM, said:

4. Put the pressure on!

After 5, pass. You've already made your decision to bid 4 - be it for good or bad.

1h...lets really put the pressure on them to bid game.....if they bid 5d.....double.....the pressure.

Its matchpoints. Perhaps they chose the wrong game and belong in spades. Partner didnt preempt with spades; the opps are more likely to have the spades.
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Posted 2008-March-24, 04:05

I also go for 4, when opponent bid 5 there are 2 alternatives: 5 or double, I think I would double.
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Posted 2008-March-24, 04:10

effervesce, on Mar 24 2008, 04:50 AM, said:

mike777, on Mar 24 2008, 03:40 AM, said:

effervesce, on Mar 24 2008, 03:03 AM, said:

4. Put the pressure on!

After 5, pass. You've already made your decision to bid 4 - be it for good or bad.

1h...lets really put the pressure on them to bid game.....if they bid 5d.....double.....the pressure.

Its matchpoints. Perhaps they chose the wrong game and belong in spades. Partner didnt preempt with spades; the opps are more likely to have the spades.

This all sounds like reasons to bid 1h and put the full court pressure on them......not 4h....which forces them to bid......easy. Again 1h really puts pressure on them.....not 4h....

You list reasons for 1h bid not 4h bid...
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Posted 2008-March-24, 09:29

I'll sign up for 4NT. It's the only bid that clearly defines my hand. If my partner has nothing it may keep them out of a makeable something, if he has something, he now at least can choose a suit for us. I dislike 4 because it gives us only one chance to be in the right place.

As usual with crazy hands, any plus is good. I like 4NT precisely because it doesn't give them the chance to be in 4 at my expense. Looks like that at the table this wasn't an issue. I would rather push them into one too many as a way of getting my plus.

What do I know? Ask the oracle, perhaps if I had time. Over to you, Adam.

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