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Posted 2008-January-27, 06:57
What's your call?
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Posted 2008-January-27, 07:04
It's close to the border between a pass and a double.
I think I double.
I think I double.
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Posted 2008-January-27, 07:31
I double, and I don't think it's close.
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Posted 2008-January-27, 10:51
It's close to a redouble, if anything, but that's not really allowed.
I'd double without the ♥Q also (and replaced by a non spade)
I'd double without the ♥Q also (and replaced by a non spade)
... and I can prove it with my usual, flawless logic.
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Posted 2008-January-27, 12:12
I'd pass and I don't think it's close.
If you double, what are you rooting for? A leave in or a pull? Neither looks that appetizing. The opps are vulnerable.
If you double, what are you rooting for? A leave in or a pull? Neither looks that appetizing. The opps are vulnerable.
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Posted 2008-January-27, 13:19
Dbl. I like action 
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Posted 2008-January-27, 15:59
Double, not close.
Phil, partner is almost unlimited in this auction, only trouble about double is to fail on slam.
Phil, partner is almost unlimited in this auction, only trouble about double is to fail on slam.
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Posted 2008-January-27, 16:13
Double. You wouldn't have to change the hand much for me to pass.
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Posted 2008-January-27, 17:12
X. As Phil implied this is going to give up 5 imps often (and maybe more with the overtrick). However you're going to get some small wins when you beat them 2 or a big win when partner bids a game and makes it or pushes them to the 5 level or w/e. I think doubling light here is a long term winner.
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Posted 2008-January-28, 05:00
Well, I don't even consider this a light dbl
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Posted 2008-January-28, 05:45
Double. And I don't think this is light, just minimum.
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Posted 2008-January-28, 05:49
X.
Unless you play penalty doubles
in this position, in which case I
would pass, because I dont think
I am strong enough to force to
5 level via 4 NT in this case.
With kind regards
Marlowe
Unless you play penalty doubles
in this position, in which case I
would pass, because I dont think
I am strong enough to force to
5 level via 4 NT in this case.
With kind regards
Marlowe
With kind regards
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
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Posted 2008-January-28, 07:17
Put me in with the 'Double, not close' crowd.
That's impossible. No one can give more than one hundred percent. By definition that is the most anyone can give.
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Posted 2008-January-28, 09:51
I guess I'll start a new crowd. Double, but it's close.
Please let me know about any questions or interest or bug reports about GIB.
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Posted 2008-January-28, 10:19
I double.
Pass is too dangerous.
We are allowed to have the minimum hand for our call: it makes us dislike the call but that isn't a reason not to make it.
BTW, this would be a far more dangerous call if partner didn't have 4N available with a 2-suiter with which he can't pass 4♠ doubled.
Pass is too dangerous.
We are allowed to have the minimum hand for our call: it makes us dislike the call but that isn't a reason not to make it.
BTW, this would be a far more dangerous call if partner didn't have 4N available with a 2-suiter with which he can't pass 4♠ doubled.
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Posted 2008-January-28, 11:35
mikeh, on Jan 28 2008, 11:19 AM, said:
BTW, this would be a far more dangerous call if partner didn't have 4N available with a 2-suiter with which he can't pass 4♠ doubled.
How so? Partner's expecting a three-suiter, yes? So if he has five diamonds and four clubs you'd expect him to say 5♦, not 4NT.
I'm not saying that Xing here for takeout is wrong (assuming you play it as takeout). I will say the average result from this has been nightmarish when I've been the partner, though often every choice is a bad result. But since partner didn't get a chance to bid over, say, 2♠, I don't see how I have any choice in the matter.
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Posted 2008-January-28, 12:09
jtfanclub, on Jan 28 2008, 12:35 PM, said:
mikeh, on Jan 28 2008, 11:19 AM, said:
BTW, this would be a far more dangerous call if partner didn't have 4N available with a 2-suiter with which he can't pass 4♠ doubled.
How so? Partner's expecting a three-suiter, yes? So if he has five diamonds and four clubs you'd expect him to say 5♦, not 4NT.
You might, but I wouldn't.
If partner was 3-1-5-4 (or 2-2-5-4), he should bid 4N offering both minor suits, not a unilateral 5D.
jmoo.
Is the word "pass" not in your vocabulary?
So many experts, not enough X cards.
So many experts, not enough X cards.
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Posted 2008-January-28, 14:16
jtfanclub, on Jan 28 2008, 11:35 AM, said:
mikeh, on Jan 28 2008, 11:19 AM, said:
BTW, this would be a far more dangerous call if partner didn't have 4N available with a 2-suiter with which he can't pass 4♠ doubled.
How so? Partner's expecting a three-suiter, yes? So if he has five diamonds and four clubs you'd expect him to say 5♦, not 4NT.
I'm not saying that Xing here for takeout is wrong (assuming you play it as takeout). I will say the average result from this has been nightmarish when I've been the partner, though often every choice is a bad result. But since partner didn't get a chance to bid over, say, 2♠, I don't see how I have any choice in the matter.
I don't know what your partner's do, but when my partners have 3154 they either pass or bid 4N. It is not close to show 2 suits with this shape, since the takeout double could be off-shape (with 1426 and the right amount of high cards, I would double).
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