[han]

Why is a splinter not useful? Seems like looking at your weak 2 and saying "hey I have close to a maximum with nothing wasted in clubs, we likely have slam" is a perfectly reasonable scenario.

There may be better uses (control ask, keycards, ..) but a splinter can certainly be useful.

[P_Marlowe]

bid_em_up, on Oct 29 2007, 09:28 AM, said:

P_Marlowe, on Oct 28 2007, 04:36 PM, said:

pclayton, on Oct 28 2007, 11:35 AM, said:

cherdano, on Oct 28 2007, 08:23 AM, said:

5♣. If partner replies 5♥, one keycard outside of clubs, i may still hope that he will pass 6♣.

Arend is playing Super Geeber apparently.

I have a hard time coming up with why 5♣ is better than 4♣. Surely 4♣ is forcing?

sure, but 4C could be interpreted as splinter.

With kind regards
Marlowe

Be realistic please.

How can the preemptor make any use of a 4C splinter? Whats he supposed to do? Look at his 6-11 hcp and 6+ hearts and think "yea, I guess since I have no wasted values in clubs I can consider slam"?!?

This would be as bad of an agreement as agreeing to play new suit non-forcing.

Hi,

1) 3C is forcing, means the default rule for splinter bids
make 4C a splinter
Can someone define a better meaning for 4C sure, but
unless you have done so, the default rule is valid
2) 3C is nonforcing, what should be the default meaning of
4C, natural (non-)forcing, will that be better?
4C is a jump, and I would guess the auction 2H - 4C
does sound similar as in a), so 4C may or may not have
a similar meaning
....
The splinter meaning may be uncommon, there may be better
meanings of the bid, but if you add a quantitative meaning to it,
only if max. than I guess, it will be nearly as good as anything else.

With kind regards
Marlowe