[jdeegan]

Scoring: MP

1♥-P-1NT-2♠
P-P-????

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Matchpoints with a casual, but competent, partner. Now what?

[pclayton]

Double; takeout not cooperative. Pard's double of 2♠ is takeout, and so is mine.

[mike777]

double is a very nice bid..One I would not have found at the table.

[the hog]

mike777, on Dec 22 2006, 01:58 PM, said:

double is a very nice bid..One I would not have found at the table.

Neither would I. Mind you, I would not call it a "very nice bid" either. I would have found 2NT. For me a X would show H tolerance, which I do not seem to have.

[HeartA]

The_Hog, on Dec 21 2006, 11:57 PM, said:

I would have found 2NT. For me a X would show H tolerance, which I do not seem to have.

Well, this time I don't agree. Your 1NT already shows less than 3 hearts (usually). You do have heart tolerance. 2NT would be fine for me as well, slightly inferior than double.

[the hog]

Perhaps I should have been more explicit. For me the X would show Hx in H, not 2 rag which I do not regard as support.

[whereagles]

The_Hog, on Dec 22 2006, 04:57 AM, said:

I would have found 2NT. For me a X would show H tolerance, which I do not seem to have.

If 1NT were limited to 10 hcp, there's a point in 2NT now being for the minors. But if 1NT was of the forcing or semiforcing variant, 2NT now can, and probably should, be the usual 11-12 bal hand.

Also, why is it that you require ♥Hx to dbl? If pard has a 6-card heart, your xx should be fine. Or.. would he bid 3♥ over dbl with 5 cards?

[P_Marlowe]

whereagles, on Dec 22 2006, 05:17 AM, said:

<snip>
If 1NT were limited to 10 hcp, there's a point in 2NT now being for the minors. But if 1NT was of the forcing or semiforcing variant, 2NT now can, and probably should, be the usual 11-12 bal hand.
<snip>

Assuming 1NT was forcing, I would switch the meaning,
i.e. dbl now is bal. 10-12, and 2NT is for the minors.

If I hold the 10-12 val. hand, it is more likely that we
will go plus defending.

With kind regards
Marlowe

[whereagles]

P_Marlowe, on Dec 22 2006, 10:41 AM, said:

Assuming 1NT was forcing, I would switch the meaning,
i.e. dbl now is bal. 10-12, and 2NT is for the minors.

You can do that, but you'll have to agree to it with pard first.

[inquiry]

SAYC.. .ok, so 1NT was natural and denied 4♠ and 3♥'s. So 3-2 in the majors at best (and 2-2 and perhaps 3-1 is also possible).

So, double is never going to be penalty. If you had a long minor, you would (could) just bid it now (long in this case is 5/6). So there are two options other than pass. Double (takeout) or 2NT as either natural or as takeout to the minors. Playing SAYC I would take 2NT as natural, so that leaves double.

I am going to disagree with Hog here. With Hx in hearts I would not be in a rush to play in a 5-2 fit at the three level at matchpoints. (seems to me LOTT would require a 9 card fit for 3 level, not 7). So double is clearly the only, and correct, rebid.

[jdeegan]

In real life, partner's hand was a 3-5-2-3 good minimum - statistically one of the most probable distributions and HCP holdings for him to have.

Scoring: MP

1♥-P-1NT-2♠
P-P-Dbl-???

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You chose to balance with a double on the grounds that despite vulnerability we had to compete (I certainly agree with that). Now what?

[whereagles]

That's easy: pass or 3♣

[the hog]

jdeegan, on Dec 23 2006, 09:22 AM, said:

In real life, partner's hand was a 3-5-2-3 good minimum - statistically one of the most probable distributions and HCP holdings for him to have.

Scoring: MP

1♥-P-1NT-2♠
P-P-Dbl-???

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You chose to balance with a double on the grounds that despite vulnerability we had to compete (I certainly agree with that).  Now what?

I bid 3C. This seems clear cut to me without being able to look at the prime cards in partner's hand.

[flytoox]

I agree with all that I would reopen with dbl after 2S. As for what the opener should do after pd's reopening dbl, I think dbl is definitely an option.

[HeartA]

flytoox, on Dec 24 2006, 10:44 PM, said:

I agree with all that I would reopen with dbl after 2S. As for what the opener should do after pd's reopening dbl, I think dbl is definitely an option.

dbl over pd's dbl? I don't know bridge rules allow that.

[flytoox]

HeartA, on Dec 25 2006, 05:37 AM, said:

flytoox, on Dec 24 2006, 10:44 PM, said:

I agree with all that I would reopen with dbl after 2S. As for what the opener should do after pd's reopening dbl, I think dbl is definitely an option.

dbl over pd's dbl? I don't know bridge rules allow that.

lol. I meant pass.