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how to reevaluate openers hand after raise by responder.?add long suit pts or short suit or both.thanks
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how to reevaluate openers hand after raise reevaluate after raise by responder
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Posted 2006-December-16, 22:19
In general if you find a fit then use short suit points, and if you don't then use long suit points.
So after 1C p 1S p if you are considering 2S or 3S, adjust with short suit points (you have a fit).
After 1C p 1S p if you are considering 2C or 3C then use long suit points (add for a 7 card suit, etc).
Also remember shortness in partner's suit is a reason to be on the cautious side.
So after 1C p 1S p if you are considering 2S or 3S, adjust with short suit points (you have a fit).
After 1C p 1S p if you are considering 2C or 3C then use long suit points (add for a 7 card suit, etc).
Also remember shortness in partner's suit is a reason to be on the cautious side.
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Posted 2006-December-16, 22:32
I'd suggest, at least for major-suit raises, using a losing trick count approach. LTC is most ideal for the bid-and-raise auction with a major focus. "Points" is a difficult method to use, despite it's introduction as, ironically, to make things easier.
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Posted 2006-December-17, 01:34
sgarlapati, on Dec 16 2006, 09:44 PM, said:
how to reevaluate openers hand after raise by responder.?add long suit pts or short suit or both.thanks
Not both, if you have length, you have
shortness as well.
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Posted 2006-December-17, 02:28
I can't remember ever using length or shortage points after a simple raise.
Most times you can make a decent estimate of how many tricks you will make opposite partner's hand.
A simple raise shows around 6-9 points which typically will cover somewhere between zero and four of your losers - four might be something like two working kings, the trump queen and a useful ruffing value. Some modified Losing Trick Count approach should work well.
If I need one cover card I would just bid game.
If I need two cover cards then I will just bid game under pressure but with no opposition bidding I will make a game try - short or long suit depending on your methods.
If I need three cover cards then I might make a game try especially if there are a variety of combinations of cards that will make game.
If I need more than this I pass.
In all of this I am optimistic as there are always other ways making your contract. One of my favourite partners has a saying 'nothing a few finesses won't cure'.
Most times you can make a decent estimate of how many tricks you will make opposite partner's hand.
A simple raise shows around 6-9 points which typically will cover somewhere between zero and four of your losers - four might be something like two working kings, the trump queen and a useful ruffing value. Some modified Losing Trick Count approach should work well.
If I need one cover card I would just bid game.
If I need two cover cards then I will just bid game under pressure but with no opposition bidding I will make a game try - short or long suit depending on your methods.
If I need three cover cards then I might make a game try especially if there are a variety of combinations of cards that will make game.
If I need more than this I pass.
In all of this I am optimistic as there are always other ways making your contract. One of my favourite partners has a saying 'nothing a few finesses won't cure'.
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I believe that the USA currently hold only the World Championship For People Who Still Bid Like Your Auntie Gladys - dburn
dunno how to play 4 card majors - JLOGIC
True but I know Standard American and what better reason could I have for playing Precision? - Hideous Hog
Bidding is an estimation of probabilities SJ Simon
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