why is BBO dealing us so very many unusual distribution challenged hands??/ Too many dist challenged hands are being dealt on BBO...
#1
Posted 2014-May-15, 20:03
Please let us play good bridge with normal hands..
#2
Posted 2014-May-15, 20:17
Kortenhoef, on 2014-May-15, 20:03, said:
I very much doubt this assumption is correct.
As for tv, screw it. You aren't missing anything. -- Ken Berg
I have come to realise it is futile to expect or hope a regular club game will be run in accordance with the laws. -- Jillybean
#3
Posted 2014-May-15, 20:40
Kortenhoef, on 2014-May-15, 20:03, said:
Please let us play good bridge with normal hands..
I checked "The List" and you are on the list to get goulash hands. You should apply to get on the list for flat hands. I would also apply to get on the list for excess high card points because nobody likes to be dummy.
#4
Posted 2014-May-15, 22:13
Here are the first large bunch of hands you played on 5/15/2014 (of course this is my time, as that is how myhands pulls them up. The first one was played against lybira and liondanial. The following is a list of the most distributional hand at the table and your shape. Looks perfectly normal to me. Feel free to check these or other hands and see if you REally think they are not random.
4432 biggest *you were 4333
5431 biggest *you were 5332 (note you changed table)
6421 biggest *you were 4432
5422 biggest *you were 5332 (note you changed table)
6331 biggest *you were 4432
4432 biggest *you were 4432 as was everyone
5431 biggest *you were 4432
5431 biggest *you were 4432
5431 biggest *you were 5431
7411 biggest *you were 5332
5521 biggest *you were 5431
6421 biggest *you were 5422
7222 biggest *you were 7222 (note you changed tables)
5521 biggest *you were 5521
4432 biggest *you were 4432
6631 biggest *you were 5521
5431 biggest *you were 5431
5521 biggest *you were 5422
5332 biggest *you were 4432
4432 biggest *you were 4432
6430 biggest *you were 6331
6322 biggest *you were 4432
6331 biggest *you were 5422
5431 biggest *you were 4432
6322 biggest *you were 4333
5431 biggest *you were 4333
5431 biggest *you were 5422
5431 biggest *you were 5332
5431 biggest *you were 4432
5431 biggest *you were 4333
5431 biggest *you were 4432
#5
Posted 2014-May-16, 02:09
#6
Posted 2014-May-16, 02:21
The list Inquiry posted looks slightly flatter than expected with Kortenhoef getting no voids and just six singletons. But of course it is just a coincidence.
#7
Posted 2014-May-16, 02:28
inquiry, on 2014-May-15, 22:13, said:
Here are the first large bunch of hands you played on 5/15/2014 (of course this is my time, as that is how myhands pulls them up. The first one was played against lybira and liondanial. The following is a list of the most distributional hand at the table and your shape. Looks perfectly normal to me. Feel free to check these or other hands and see if you REally think they are not random.
4432 biggest *you were 4333
5431 biggest *you were 5332 (note you changed table)
6421 biggest *you were 4432
5422 biggest *you were 5332 (note you changed table)
6331 biggest *you were 4432
4432 biggest *you were 4432 as was everyone
5431 biggest *you were 4432
5431 biggest *you were 4432
5431 biggest *you were 5431
7411 biggest *you were 5332
5521 biggest *you were 5431
6421 biggest *you were 5422
7222 biggest *you were 7222 (note you changed tables)
5521 biggest *you were 5521
4432 biggest *you were 4432
6631 biggest *you were 5521
5431 biggest *you were 5431
5521 biggest *you were 5422
5332 biggest *you were 4432
4432 biggest *you were 4432
6430 biggest *you were 6331
6322 biggest *you were 4432
6331 biggest *you were 5422
5431 biggest *you were 4432
6322 biggest *you were 4333
5431 biggest *you were 4333
5431 biggest *you were 5422
5431 biggest *you were 5332
5431 biggest *you were 4432
5431 biggest *you were 4333
5431 biggest *you were 4432
I can understand why he is pissed off, he is always having balanced crap while everyone else is having some 5431 to kick his ass.
#8
Posted 2014-May-16, 04:22
Also - I notice that on some days my hands seem to average low in points relative to the other hands. This results in having to play defense all day, and try as we might, my partner and I end up with the short end of the stick when the IMPs are distributed.
It's obvious to me that BBO is punishing us on random days because my partner and I play regularly together.
#10
Posted 2014-May-16, 05:39
#11
Posted 2014-May-16, 06:04
George Carlin
#12
Posted 2014-May-16, 06:54
a. in a "best hand for south" context in some robot Ts
b. TD specifies deal set for his own tourney ( we don't do this for any of our own tourneys ATM)
c. Table host uploads prepared/constructed deals at teaching/partnershipbidding tables
The gibs tend to lead passively, they don't like to give up tricks on opening lead.. i think that given the style, hooks into opening leader will tend to fail more often than they'll work?
#13
Posted 2014-May-16, 07:08
uday, on 2014-May-16, 06:54, said:
Yes good point. Didn't think about that.
#14
Posted 2014-May-16, 08:00
No - the conspiracy seems to be much wider. I think it's time we had real answers!
#15
Posted 2014-May-16, 09:16
J/K
#17
Posted 2014-May-16, 11:44
Kortenhoef, on 2014-May-15, 20:03, said:
Please let us play good bridge with normal hands..
Tell me about it! Yesterday I played for the QH to drop "eight never, nine ever" and to my shock -- Instead of the QH dropping my Ace of Hearts lost to the Ace of DOUBLE HEARTS! Fred didn't tell me he swapped the deck with one of his grandkid's games. I guess I should pay more a month.
#18
Posted 2014-May-16, 14:25
I feel these stacked hands encourage cheating and reward bad bidding and play. But to date BBO refuses to address the
problem, or the BBO person who is doing this. I think BBO should remove them from the payroll. I would like to see ACBL stop
awarding master points on BBO until there is an investigation.
I mostly play ACBL Regional Tournaments, and do not see hands of this nature, and
not three or four in a row like they seem to show up on BBO.
#19
Posted 2014-May-16, 15:06
sdwcheney, on 2014-May-16, 14:25, said:
I feel these stacked hands encourage cheating and reward bad bidding and play. But to date BBO refuses to address the
problem, or the BBO person who is doing this. I think BBO should remove them from the payroll. I would like to see ACBL stop
awarding master points on BBO until there is an investigation.
I mostly play ACBL Regional Tournaments, and do not see hands of this nature, and
not three or four in a row like they seem to show up on BBO.
Let's play a little game
Please provide a specific description of how the hands on BBO are "fixed".
After you go and do this, I'll analyze the next month worth of hands that you play and we'll see how well your claims accord with reality...
#20
Posted 2014-May-16, 16:23
hrothgar, on 2014-May-16, 15:06, said:
Please provide a specific description of how the hands on BBO are "fixed".
After you go and do this, I'll analyze the next month worth of hands that you play and we'll see how well your claims accord with reality...
Somebody needs to take a break. There is no "fix" in. What would BBO gain from it? It is in the same position as a blackjack dealer in a casino. It just collects the money. It doesn't think about who is winning or losing. It gets paid either way.