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Do you take any action in first seat? It has good playing strength in this hand if a minor fit is found, and if you obey the Rule of 20,you need 1♦ opening,even if with 9hcp,really?
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Posted 2013-January-05, 20:05
Do you take any action in first seat? It has good playing strength in this hand if a minor fit is found, and if you obey the Rule of 20,you need 1♦ opening,even if with 9hcp,really?
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Posted 2013-January-05, 20:10
6-5 come alive
Pass and hope to come in with 2N or bid 1♦, I'd likely bid but I've been accused of opening on thin air before.
btw I dislike the rule of 20.
Pass and hope to come in with 2N or bid 1♦, I'd likely bid but I've been accused of opening on thin air before.
btw I dislike the rule of 20.
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Posted 2013-January-05, 21:26
Pass.
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Posted 2013-January-05, 21:46
this hand i would pass but its mainly a matter of gross
diamonds even out the power btn the minors and i have little
trouble with a 1d opener.
diamonds even out the power btn the minors and i have little
trouble with a 1d opener.
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Posted 2013-January-05, 22:26
I'd open 1d at MP. This has to be better than 9 knr and we tend to open a lot of 11s anyway, and this might be my only chance to show 2 suits and not commit us to the 5 level.
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Posted 2013-January-05, 22:28
K&r 12.95 fwiw
"I think maybe so and so was caught cheating but maybe I don't have the names right". Sure, and I think maybe your mother .... Oh yeah, that was someone else maybe. -- kenberg
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Posted 2013-January-05, 23:40
wyman, on 2013-January-05, 22:28, said:
K&r 12.95 fwiw
Wyman.....????!!!!
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Posted 2013-January-06, 01:40
It meets rules of 20, but not rule of 22. I prefer the latter to the former, but either way these "rules" are aids to judgement only, not hard and fast requirements.
If I had an "unusual NT" kind of opener I'd do that, but I usually don't, so this is a pass for me.
If I had an "unusual NT" kind of opener I'd do that, but I usually don't, so this is a pass for me.
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Posted 2013-January-06, 04:04
Pass, unless playing a 2 suited opening gadget.
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Posted 2013-January-06, 11:24
Phil, on 2013-January-05, 23:40, said:
Wyman.....????!!!!
What'd I do?
"I think maybe so and so was caught cheating but maybe I don't have the names right". Sure, and I think maybe your mother .... Oh yeah, that was someone else maybe. -- kenberg
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Posted 2013-January-06, 21:24
2♦
Then clubs the next chance I have. If they get high, then double by me will show another suit (for us). In case partner wants to defend.
Very much a matter of style, my partner and I strongly prefer to not pass with a hand this interesting. Of course we play the vanilla weak 2 in diamonds which many do not so that makes it easier.
Then clubs the next chance I have. If they get high, then double by me will show another suit (for us). In case partner wants to defend.
Very much a matter of style, my partner and I strongly prefer to not pass with a hand this interesting. Of course we play the vanilla weak 2 in diamonds which many do not so that makes it easier.
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Posted 2013-January-06, 22:45
2♦ seems best, as long as an asking partner is prepared for a 4♣ rebid.
Would love to have a 5-8 HCP 2N minor suit 55 opening bid in my arsenal....
KS had it right years ago - opening minor suit hands at the 1 level needed extra strength or extra length. This hand has length but opponents likely have the major. Let's get in their way now.
Would love to have a 5-8 HCP 2N minor suit 55 opening bid in my arsenal....
KS had it right years ago - opening minor suit hands at the 1 level needed extra strength or extra length. This hand has length but opponents likely have the major. Let's get in their way now.
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Posted 2013-January-07, 00:01
SteveMoe, on 2013-January-06, 22:45, said:
Would love to have a 5-8 HCP 2N minor suit 55 opening bid in my arsenal....
I would hate that, as it would seem to be more of a misdescription than 1♦.
I think this hand is really tough BTW, I am still not convinced as to whether 1♦ or pass is better.
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